that’s how you make armor for women, no bullshit boob cups.
Boob cups must be the most uncomfortable things on earth… What the hell are you supposed to do when one of your boobs slips out? Let’s say you inhale or move your chest somehow so your breasts get free from the cup and end up clipped on the edge?? You can’t even pull them like you can when your bra gets all screwed up! Like who wants to wear that while they’re fighting monsters and shit?
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galacsin said: You have a really interesting and educational blog, I have never been into comics much, but your blog is still really usefull even for me. I have a question: Bad boob drawing has plagued the visual arts since forever, but one thing I really don't get is huge boobs with tiny nipples/areolas. I know there are people with such anatomy in the real word, but as someone who have breast/know how diverse breasts are and loves breast I just don't get the widespread appearance of such unlikely thing.
True story - when I grew my breasts, I was absolutely depressed about the shape they turned out to be, and the size of my nipples. I thought I had the ugliest boobs on the planet and the very boobs you describe? I thought that was the default and what is expected to be seen when bras are taken off.
I was so surprised when I started doing art seriously and then got to see a LOT of naked people and, of course, lots of different kinds of boobs, as there were women not only with boobs like mine, but boobs with nipples bigger than mine, in different positions than mine - there was a kaleidoscope of variation.
Since then, I try to put variation in boobs in my work. Pointy boobs, round boobs, heavy boobs, light boobs. I think the reason why the globular, tiny-nippled version of the human breast is so popular is because that’s what was painted in the classic paintings, and when Hollywood and the porn industry happened, those were the boobs that were sought out the most. When they got body doubles, those were the boobs they wanted to see.
There are a lot of unlikely body types that get overly represented in today’s media, including comics. Really, it all comes down to some dude’s idea of sex appeal, and the concept becoming memetic and viral.
I think being as diverse as one can be whilst drawing characters in one’s comics is the best course of action for any comic artist out there. It lends credibility to the world you create, it makes the maximum amount of readers feel included in that world as a result, and when including that diversity in the lead characters themselves, it gives depth and interest to the character you’ve created. You may even create something someone will become deeply invested in. You never know! If people can be excited because a comic hero wore glasses, or had black hair, or was skinny at some point in their lives, who’s to say that someone might not bond to a character because they had the same boobs as them, and for the first time, they felt like their body wasn’t something to be ashamed of?
How to draw folds
Notes on how to draw folds back when I was teaching manga classes back in 2006. From the book “Drawing people” by Barbara Bradley.
This book has a very detailed description of 6 types of commonly seen folds and I think is one of the most educational resource on how to draw folds(Besides Vilppu and Bridgeman).
The importance of understanding this stuff cannot be overstated.
Anonymous said: Dropping a note to say I love this blog! I'm so glad to see you back with commentary that's better than ever. I was wondering if you'd consider doing a post on action poses? It's something I struggle a lot with - my characters tend to end up quite static-y and boring even when I put them mid-action (like swinging a fist). And women in comics always seem to be sexualised when fighting, which makes for pretty lousy reference...
Thank you so much.
That’s a great idea for a blog post, and I’ll put that in my list of subjects to do.
It’s not easy to get good references for women in action poses, but here’s a good list of places I go looking:
- Sports pages that report on women’s sports
- Olympic events
- Action movies with female heroes. Even if the plot is sexist as hell, you can’t make a real woman do the tits-n-boob, so it’s a good place to find screen shots of women holding guns, looking over their shoulders, doing stunt-y things, etc.
- Shots of women doing martial arts at professional competitions.
- Women surfers.
There are a LOT of places to find great references for the athletic female body in movement. And also, my absolute favourite:
- Myself or someone I love in their underwear doing the pose I need.
Also, if you want to find an artist that does great work with women heroes, you can’t go past Terry Dodson. That’s a good place to start, I think. :) Readers - what artists would you recommend?
lemmingluv said: Hey there!! I loved your post about subway thighs (though I'm sure you've been hearing that a lot)! I was curious on whether or not you're going to do more projects like that in the future (and if you're willing to spoil the subjects)? :D
I don’t hear it as often as you think, actually. I don’t get heaps of mail for this blog, so anyone reading this, don’t hesitate to write in if you want to share thoughts. It’s the best part of the blogging experience for me.
Spoiling future subjects? Unlike River Song, I love giving out spoilers. Upcoming subjects are:
- Painted On Costumes and Boob Socks
- Feet, Ankles, Knees
- Interesting Faces and Variety in Women
- More Corrections
I will probably begin to concentrate on corrections more as time goes on and I cover more and more of the annoying conventions. But if there’s any that bother people that I haven’t covered and people want to see, again - write in, I’d love to hear from you.
1lg-prvbs3-5-6 said: Glad i found your blog. As an aspiring female concept artist, there's still so much i have to learn about anatomy. The sandwich thigh post opened my eyes to something i was totally blind to. There's definitely a FINE LINE between exaggeration and inaccurate absurdity!
There really is! People seem to think that, because I am all about anatomical accuracy, that I don’t allow for exaggeration.
I am against art that objectifies women through anatomical bullshit conventions. Conventions that limit the amount of space women can take up in the panel they’re in, how they’re viewed, how their bodies behave, what is given importance in the visual narrative and how the subtle language of art can frame and communicate a subject. It can be insidious and terrible and sometimes very difficult to point out without people getting defensive.
Exaggeration is fine. I’ve done it myself in the past, and will do it again in the future. The question any artist must have when doing their art is - does the exaggeration rob the subject of their basic humanity? Does it echo damaging cultural narratives that oppress an entire class of people?
If the answer is no to those - go with it.
kooftalicious said: No matter how wrong someone else's work, I don't think you have the right to correct it without asking them for permission. The artists you corrected know anatomy and then purposely exaggerate it according to their preferences....
Their work is all over the internet. One of the basic tenets of free speech and intellectual discourse is constructive criticism. I have every right to talk about good anatomy and use promotional images that I find on the internet. Often I make sure to get the artists name and mention it in the post. Should I do that more often? Sure. Do I have the right to do what I do here? Absolutely.
The entire reason why I find this all so frustrating and angering is because you’re right - they DO know anatomy and they fuck with it anyway. Why?
Tits and ass. Tits and ass, buddy. And that’s wrong. So, if you do’t like me doing that, there’s the unfollow button right there.
saphariadragon said: I just wanted to say I just found your blog and I adore it. I'll definitely be poking my head around here for tips and amusement.
Thanks! I hope to make the blog widen its scope with anatomy tips as well as addressing bad comics conventions in the industry right now. I like to be constructive. :D
Anonymous said: i read your post about subway sandwich legs and now im really hungry
Me too. A six-inch sub with chicken, salad and sweet onion on an italian bread roll. Mmmmmm…
Anonymous said: and this reminds me of why i have a hard time reading comics! i walked past a compilation novel of deadpool comics, and deadpool on the cover his legs were nearly twice as long as his upper half and his calves were literally two balls under the knee then sticks for legs. I really want to get into comics (reading, I've tried making but im terrible storywriter) but it's really hard considering a lot of the art even outside of just the terrible women is bad.
Seriously. If an issue of my favourite comics has a bad artist? I really, *really* struggle to get through that shit. My mind is just poring over all the fuck-ups and not on the story and the whole time I’m thinking, “God damn, this could have been SO GOOD.”
Thankfully most of the time the comics I read have good art. That’s because I’m picky, I guess. That and I tend to read old school stuff most of the time. Like, 60s and 70s and early 80s.
fancyfade said: i love seeing your blog back! This was one of the first blogs i followed on tumblr, and also one that taught me a great deal about anatomy.
Thank you so much for your lovely message. I just had to get some real life shit sorted out. My aunt died of cancer, then six months later my 18 year old cat had to be put down in my arms due to liver and kidney failure (old age). During those six months I tended to him every day, feeding him constantly because of his failing liver and making sure he was never uncomfortable or in pain. This often involved me cleaning up after his poops and pee-pee when he went where he shouldn’t have, and wiping him down multiple times a day with special cat wipes because he was old and old cats have a hard time cleaning themselves in hard-to-reach spots. Then a week after he died, I fell pregnant. I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks.
Seriously, you couldn’t make that shit up. LOL! I’m finally feeling myself again after all that and a summer of taking it easy and doing watercolours to soothe my soul, and I’m ready to rattle the sabre and do some shit for equality it comics. The warm welcome back has been unexpected and very, very appreciated. You guys are awesome and I love you.
There will also be some more anatomy stuff coming up because I have fun doing that stuff and I think it does more to encourage people to get things right rather than snarking it up all the time. :)
ablankcharactersheet said: I have a question about your thoughts on hyper-stylized artwork. Do you have as much of a problem if proportions and such are wonky if the ENTIRE world is really stylized and not just the one deformed creature in question? I notice most of your corrections seem to be to comics that are "realistic".
Most of my work addresses mainstream hero comics. It’s directly tackling the porny undertones of a lot of comic art conventions that are popular. Highly stylised work, like that of children’s cartoons, DC cartoons, etc, is so stylised that it rarely has the opportunity to be quite as male-gazey and detailed in its depiction of women as mainstream “realistic” comics do.
The other thing is that it’s the mainstream style that I’m into, that I come across most often and that I am proficient in drawing in myself. It is absolutely pointless me trying to draw in an anime style, because I’ve tried and I absolutely cannot do it. My hands and brain have been trained differently.
So I do what I do best. But if other people spot something in a style that I don’t correct in, and want to do a correction and submit it, I’m open to that and I’ll pass it along.